London flatshare

Samedi 1 mars 2008

MSN conversation with the scammer... Be careful!!!

claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
hi
Florent dit :
hi
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
how you doing today
Florent dit :
fine thanks
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
when are you available so I can meet you in London to give you the security deposit
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
am free any time
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
but it's for your own good
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
cos a lot of flatmate want to book for the flat with the security deposit
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
and i can guarantee you without the security deposit
Florent dit :
sure, and of course, they accept to send you the deposit by western union...
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
see
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
not every body on internet and the same
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i am a very nice and repectful lady
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
I have no doubt about that
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so
Florent dit :
so you have not doubt that I can't send you £400 without seeing the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
but that is the only way to secure the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
And what if a friend of mine see the flat before
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
by the way i am felling embarrassed the way you talking
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i understand what you mean
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
maybe you try and look for another flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
hey
Florent dit :
yes, sure
Florent dit :
so I can send you the money
Florent dit :
do you have a document attesting that you are the owner of the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
what
Florent dit :
i don't know, an electricity bill
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
see
Florent dit :
or something like that
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you have my id
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
that should be a proff
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
at least
Florent dit :
no, you know, it is very easy to make a fake ID
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
hahahah
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you make me smile the way you talk dear
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
sure
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i have my electrical bills
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
but how do you want me to believed you are not up to some thing with it
Florent dit :
what do you want me to do with an electrical bill
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i dont know
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so why do you ask for it then
Florent dit :
just to be sure, that you actually own the flat, for which I am about to send you £400
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
see
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
after receiving the transfer details from you
Florent dit :
lol
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
my lawyer will issue a receipt for the payment
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
, no pbl,
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
trust me
Florent dit :
but is it a big deal to send me an electrical bill first
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i can send it to yo
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
but as soon as i received the transfer details from you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
which i will now believed you are also for real not that you need my document for something easl
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
else
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
sign the form and send back ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
the room is all your's now
Florent dit :
yes, , I understand, I arrange the transfer, and I contact you back
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you there?
Florent dit :
yes
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
say some thing
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
are you still interested in my flat
Florent dit :
yes
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
yes/no
Florent dit :
yes I do
Florent dit :
sure
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
what is the plan now
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
cos a lot of flatmate want to book for the flat
Florent dit :
I don't know, I do not know how we can proceed
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
what do you mean
Florent dit :
so how do u want me to send you the money
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i told you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
western union
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
or money gram
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
and you get your receipt after sending the transfer details to me
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i think you are scared right
Florent dit :
yes of course
Florent dit :
how old are you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
28years
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
and you
Florent dit :
22
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you will enjoy living in my flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
trust me
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
?
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
maybe i should rent the room to another flatmate
Florent dit :
no, no
Florent dit :
I am in Paris, now
Florent dit :
I can take a train tommorow morning
Florent dit :
can we meet tommorow in London
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
so we can directly meet at your apartment
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
I will give you the form signed
Florent dit :
and the secutity deposit
Florent dit :
and you can give me a bunch of keys at this time
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
am not secure as well
Florent dit :
yes, I understand
Florent dit :
but if we meet, we will both have the guarantee we need
Florent dit :
do u want me to phone you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
nop
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
since you dont trust me
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
look for another flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
my lawyer will not even allow you without the security deposit
Florent dit :
yes I understand, but I ll give you the securtiy deposit tommorow
Florent dit :
by cash, is that , because I do not have a british account
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
see
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
after receving the deposit from you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
which my lawyer will issue a receipt which you will need to bring along with you before coming near the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
for security reason's
Florent dit :
which security reason
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
but you seems not to understand all what am saying
Florent dit :
heu, no, I don't understand, is there security pbl
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
to make sure nothing happen to the property in the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
yeah
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
there is
Florent dit :
we can meet in a pub near the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
nop
Florent dit :
and I don't have to enter the flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i know
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
this is the instruction from my lawyer
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
maybe you call him
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
and discuss on phone with him for viewing
Florent dit :
, we can do that
Florent dit :
so I can meet you in a cafe, and call your lawyer later
Florent dit :
I can come back to see the flat next week
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so
Florent dit :
, so let's meet tomorrow
Florent dit :
what is the nearest pub from your fla
Florent dit :
flat
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
no meeting without the security deposit
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
since you dont trust me
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i dont trust you either
Florent dit :
no, I trust you
Florent dit :
but, my parents don't want me to send the deposit without meeting the person
Florent dit :
they will pay for that
Florent dit :
so I have to do as they want me to do

claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i cant help that
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
?
Florent dit :
, so what is the way to proceed for the western union transfer
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
go to the post office and make the transfer
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
throug western union
Florent dit :
yes, and how does it work
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
when you get there
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you will be provided a transfer slip to fill out some infomation
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
like send's name: your name
Florent dit :

claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
receiver's name: my name
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so a to received the money
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
MTCN 10 Digit number
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
will be given to you at where you make the transfer
Florent dit :

Florent dit :
and how will you take the money
Florent dit :

Florent dit :
sorry, it is the first time I do a transfert, through WU... lol
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
you will send me the transfer details
Florent dit :
o, , that's easy
Florent dit :
and, I have to precise a receiving agency
Florent dit :
or you can take it from anywhere
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
Below is the (WESTERN UNION)info.
NAME OF SENDER:YOUR NAME
NAME OF RECEIVER: CLAUDIA RIEDEL
SENDERS ADDRESS: YOUR ADDRESS
AMOUNT SENT:400
MCTN10 DIGIT NUMBER:WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU AT WHERE YOU MAKE THE TRANSFER
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
hey
Florent dit :
, that is easy
Florent dit :
I do that tomorrow morning
Florent dit :
I will not tell my parents
Florent dit :
and after, what do I have to do
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
why not today
Florent dit :
because, I am in the countryside, in the home of my parents
Florent dit :
I go back in the center in the evening
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
for the receipt
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
go and make the transfer
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
today
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
go now
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
so as to conclude your agreement with my lawyer
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
I cannot, there is no public transportation, I have to wait for my parents to drop me with their car.
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
so, after, that
Florent dit :
can I meet you in London this week
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
yeah
Florent dit :
when
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
send the transfer details after it's done for your receipt
Florent dit :
is tuesday for you
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
tuesday morning is thta
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
cool
Florent dit :
I will arrive around 9 in st pancras
Florent dit :
where can we meet
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
i will come over to victoria station to pick you up
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
Florent dit :
,
Florent dit :
do you have a mobile number, in order for me to phone you when I am in Victoria station
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
07024071556
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
and you
Florent dit :
33 6 75 90 89 76
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
ok
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
cool
Florent dit :
so, I call you tommorow morning, when I do the transfer
Florent dit :
what is the name of your flatmate
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
belinda
Florent dit :
, she is from where
Florent dit :
are u still here
are u still here
claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com dit :
usa
Florent dit :
am sorry, i have to go, my parents want me to serve the tea
Florent dit :
see u later.

Be careful !!!!

Par Florent SILVE - Publié dans : Flatshare
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Samedi 1 mars 2008

First steps ... looking for a flatshare in LONDON

I have created this blog to share my experience. I am moving to London in around 6 weeks, and I am looking for a flatshare. I have written many adds on different websites, and I am experiencing many scams. So my first article will be about a scam. I report below, the emails, and the msn conversation with the scammer. Be careful, do not accept any offer that is too good to be true !!

Scammer 1:

"Claudia Riedle" (Sorry for the real persone called Claudia Riedle, from who the name has been taken..)

Website: http://uk.easyroommate.com

Sample of our conversation: (from the more recent)

Hello,
Thanks for the mail and interest in my flat? i am currently living in the flat with one international student from usa ?
The more reason why i send you id it's just for you to know what and how i look like.i am the real landlady and owner of the property,so you think every body on internet are there to scam or take away money from people right cut it.
I have a lot of flatmate interested in my flat and security deposit is the only way you can secure the flat and remember the money will be refund back to you after moving in.so go ahead and act fast if you are really interested in the flat,Hope to read from you soon.

Cheers,
Claudia.

Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:34:36 +0100
From: silveflorent@gmail.com
To: claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Tenancy agreement form/security deposit to secure the flat before your arrival to london

Hi Claudia,

I am ok, and I want to rent the flat. Are you currently living in the flat? Who are the other flatmates?
For the security deposit, If you don't mind I prefer to do it through a third party, as for example, precised on the following website, so we have both the guarantees we are looking for:
http://uk.easyroommate.com/misc/scam2.aspx
I sign and I send you back the Renting Agreement form.
Can you send me by email, a document attesting that you are landlord of the flat located at the following address:

Address:26 Little Chester Street
Belgravia,London SW1X 7AP.

Before sending the security deposit, I would like a friend living in London of mine to see the flat. Can you tell me when you are available?

I wait for you answer,

Regards,

Florent

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, claudia riedel <claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey flatmate,

Thanks for your mail and for your interesting in being my flat.I have attach the Agreement form for her to sign it by writing your name at the end of the page i mean under my name and attach it back to me asap you sign. you will need to secure the rooms with security deposit cause without paying the security deposit i can not keep the flat for you but if you pay the security deposit now i will keep the flat for you till you anytime you are ready to move in and when you move in your money will be refund back to you cause the security deposit is refundable will collect the security deposit from you so that the flat can be kept for you till you arrival so asap you sign the agreement form attach and send it back to me so that i can arrange the information that you will use to send the security deposit and don't forget that the security deposit is refundable asap you move in is just meant for keeping the flat for you cause a lot of people are interested in my flat but i want to give it to you because you are the first person that email me for it. You will need to made the payment through (WESTERN UNION) by to go any bank or post office nearest to your area and tell them you want to send money and the will give you a slip to fill and you will fill the below info.

Below is the (WESTERN UNION)info.
NAME OF SENDER:
NAME OF RECEIVER:
SENDERS ADDRESS:
AMOUNT SENT:
MCTN10 DIGIT NUMBER:
QUESTION AND ANSWER IF ANY

Please if you really know you like my flat and you want to be my flatmate then make sure you send the deposit so that i can issue out payment receipt for you tomorrow and you bring it along with you when you are coming to london.

Reply back.
Claudia...

Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:57:22 +0100
From: silveflorent@gmail.com
To: claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Details of my flat.

Hello Claudia,

The flat is more than perfect for me. The location is very good, as I will work on the South Kensington Campus, the flat is very nice and seems to be brand new, and the rent is within my budget.
Are you already sharing the flat with somebody?
Attached, you will find the following documents:

- a copy of my passeport,
- a copy of my training period agreement,
- a copy of the document precising that I am well a student at the ESPCI (scientific school) in Paris.

Those are the first documents, as a proof of my honesty.
My full name and address:

Florent SILVE

parent's address (as indicated on my passeport)

(address removed)

This is the address you should write on the tenancy agreement form.
Curently, I am living at my grand mother's house near Paris (if you need to send me some documents):

(address removed)

If my profile correspond to what you are looking for, and if you agree to rent me the flat, I could meet you in London on the 16th and 17th of March. (I am in Madrid until the 15th of March, but I can arrange a quick trip to London on the week-end of the 16th and 17th of March).

I can also meet you on the following week-end if necessary, or I can sign and send you back the tenancy agreement, and ask a friend to meet you to see the flat.

Let me know, how you intend to proceed. If you have any question about me, do no hesitate.

Looking forward to reading from you soon.

Florent

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM, claudia riedel <claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Flatmate,
Thanks for the mail and interest in my flat?below arethe details of my flat with the picture of the house and the rooms forrent,The flat was constructed in 2006 as an extension. It has its ownentrance and reserved car parking area and is only a few minutes walkfrom the shops, post office, garage, bank and other amenities.The flatcomprises three bedroom with fitted wardrobe and chest of drawers,andan adjacent tiled bathroom with shower. The large sitting room has adouble bed settee with sprung mattress, wood burning stove, library ofbooks, internet connection,TV/video, radio/CD,warching marchineoccasional tables and additional seating.The Sky Free sat satellite TVsystem has been installed to provide you with a comprehensive range oftelevision channels.The tiled kitchen is extremely well equipped with afridge/freezer,electric oven, microwave, washer, tumble dryer anddishwasher.There is a dining table and chairs, and a full complement ofcrockery,cutlery and kitchen utensils.The flat is centrally-heated, andthere is no additional charge for electricity, bed-linen or towels. Theaccommodation is spacious for two people and more than adequate for afamily of four. The location is very peaceful,also quiteaccessible,allow pets in the flat.There are several restaurants, craftshops, and visitor attractions around Belgravia.
The flat tariff is £350 per month, £80 per week with all bills including?
£400 security deposit pay first before moving in to the flat and will be refund back?

#Name:Claudia Reidel
#Age:28years
#Profession:Nursing
#Available 20/03/2008
#Address:26 Little Chester Street
Belgravia,London SW1X 7AP.
#Area:Central London

#Nearest tube station:
#Victoria station(7 minute walk)

Hopeyou like it and also get back to me with your full name and contactaddress so as to prepare the tenancy agreement form for you,read fromyou soon

Cheers,
Claudia.

Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:52:42 +0100
From: silveflorent@gmail.com
To: claudia_londonroom@hotmail.com
Subject: FLATSHARE

Hi !

Thanks for your email.
Yes, I am interested, can you give me more details about the flat? (On which website have you seen my add??)

Iam Florent , I am 22 and I am French. I am finishing my master's degreein sciences in Paris in a french 'grande ecole'. I will do a finalproject on the South Kensington Campus during at least 4 months. I willarrive in London only around the 15th of April.

Iam clean, very mature and responsible. I take good care of thingsbelonging to others and I like cooking (yes, that's true, but I willnot argue or even talk about french or british food..lol ;-), don'tworry..). No, I am jooking... I am a very positive person, I likehaving fun with friends and meeting new people. I like to share withother people from different cultures, backgrounds.. and I am very openminded. Ok, you might think I am not very humble saying that. But,that's not true. I am honnest, and really don't like people who showoff. I also like sharing moments with friends having a glass of wine(even if it's not a french wine...)
I like to go to see plays and movies. I do sports when I find some time (gym, jogging and swimming) and I am a musician.

I am looking for respectful and open-minded flatmates, who are clean and tidy, and who are happy to live...

If April is not to late tostart the rent, I will be please to speak to you and to meet you. Don'thesitate to ask me a lot of questions, I will be pleased to answer them.

Regards,

Florent

Hi Flatmate,
Thanks for the mail and interest in my flat?below are the details of my flat with the picture of the house and the rooms for rent,The flat was constructed in 2006 as an extension. It has its own entrance and reserved car parking area and is only a few minutes walk from the shops, post office, garage, bank and other amenities.The flat comprises three bedroom with fitted wardrobe and chest of drawers,and an adjacent tiled bathroom with shower. The large sitting room has a double bed settee with sprung mattress, wood burning stove, library of books, internet connection,TV/video, radio/CD,warching marchine occasional tables and additional seating.The Sky Free sat satellite TV system has been installed to provide you with a comprehensive range of television channels.The tiled kitchen is extremely well equipped with a fridge/freezer,electric oven, microwave, washer, tumble dryer and dishwasher.There is a dining table and chairs, and a full complement of crockery,cutlery and kitchen utensils.The flat is centrally-heated, and there is no additional charge for electricity, bed-linen or towels. The accommodation is spacious for two people and more than adequate for a family of four. The location is very peaceful,also quite accessible,allow pets in the flat.There are several restaurants, craft shops, and visitor attractions around Belgravia.
The flat tariff is £350 per month, £80 per week with all bills including?
£400 security deposit pay first before moving in to the flat and will be refund back?

#Name:Claudia Reidel
#Age:28years
#Profession:Nursing
#Available 20/03/2008
#Address:26 Little Chester Street
Belgravia,London SW1X 7AP.
#Area:Central London

#Nearest tube station:
#Victoria station(7 minute walk)

Hope you like it and also get back to me with your full name and contact address so as to prepare the tenancy agreement form for you,read from you soon

Cheers,
Claudia.